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they don't want to pollute the environment. but they say global warming, potential of electric vehicle production is twice that of conventional vehicles is basically twice as bad is what they're trying to say. and number one, they say that in studies in the past they didn't consider the impact of charging the battery. that the generating of the electricity to charge the battery if it comes from a coal plant, comes from a nuclear plant, you're kind of defeating the purpose of having a cleaner vehicle because you used this other dirty way to make the electricity. what do you say? >> well, that would be true if the majority of our electricity was still coming from coal but we've had some radical changes in the electric generation sector in the united states over the last couple of years. driven primarily by steadily declining natural gas prices. as a result, for the first time in american history, we are generating more of our electricity today from natural gas than from coal. natural gas is almost 2/3 cleaner than burning coal in
they don't want to pollute the environment. but they say global warming, potential of electric vehicle production is twice that of conventional vehicles is basically twice as bad is what they're trying to say. and number one, they say that in studies in the past they didn't consider the impact of charging the battery. that the generating of the electricity to charge the battery if it comes from a coal plant, comes from a nuclear plant, you're kind of defeating the purpose of having a cleaner...
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the individual investor that we think was the day-trader certainly doesn't fit into this environment. i always told people if you're a long-term investor you shouldn't be watching the stock market day after day. watch it every couple weeks because the long-term perspective buying etfs and things i buy for my clients is what you keep in mind and leave it up to the high frequency computers to manipulate the prices by second after second. melissa: there is difference between getting out all together and not being in the market which would have been a mistake over the past year. if you look we made back all the money since this decline and not just day trading. an argument not for being out but for being more long term, right? >> yeah. in fact, if you did day trade your account, unless you were right 100% of the time you probably did worse, believe it or knot if you would have like you said left your money in there. face it melissa. ecb, mario draghi said unlimited supply of dollars for euro banks. our fed, ben bernanke is obviously all-in. tepid super conservative bank of japan two weeks
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that protects the environment and we produce more energy, domestic energy an jobs from this country. melissa: can you tell me physically what takes the process so much longer? is it your filling out pieces of paper you send them in and don't hear back forever? what in the permitting process takes gap 10 days, couple days in one situation and 290 days in the other? what is it? >> melissa, frankly it is federal bureaucracy. it is red tape. it is epa. bureau land management. what they're doing, they have got a very lengthy, extensive and uncertain permitting process that ties up industry for no real benefit that means less domestic oil, less domestic energy and fewer jobs. melissa: so what's the answer? is it no permits at all? is there a way to expedite the process? do you do the permits locally? what's the answer? >> well, that's, i appreciate you asking that question. that's my point. here in the state of north dakota we're a good example. on private lands we get the wells permitted in 10 days. with the legislation i put forward, empower states act, i have senator mikulski and rankin
that protects the environment and we produce more energy, domestic energy an jobs from this country. melissa: can you tell me physically what takes the process so much longer? is it your filling out pieces of paper you send them in and don't hear back forever? what in the permitting process takes gap 10 days, couple days in one situation and 290 days in the other? what is it? >> melissa, frankly it is federal bureaucracy. it is red tape. it is epa. bureau land management. what they're...
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we want to protect the environment. we're very proud of the beautiful landscape out here in california but we also want to make sure we don't strangle businesses. that delicate balance is hard to achieve but i think governor brown did the right thing. melissa: i can't believe you're making this argument. it is completely ridiculous. drivers have only themselves to blame. this was riff ren dumb to special cocktail of gasoline that so so expensive and so rare. not only that in 2015 it is getting worse. another proposition came in where standards will get even higher, tighting the stranglehold around drivers you're talking about. votely theirselves to blame for this situation and getting relief from this little respite. i think it is ridiculous. >> i hope it helps. keep in mind when temperatures do cool down, right now it is 75 and sunny across the state so we're not quite there when temperatures cool down the winter blend does not have same effect in it does in the summertime. that's why we do it in the wintertime. meliss
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the regulatory environment has got much tougher. the regulators are much more aggressive than they have been in the past. and i think, that makes the whole environment difficult. obviously if the election comes out one way or another, potentially, that could change some of that landscape. lori: okay. i'm so sorry. howard, we have to leave it there for time. howard is the president and ceo of vision taking over the accounts of perigrine financial. thanks for coming in. great to see you. >> same here. melissa: as we do every 15 minutes. nicole petallides is on the floor new york stock exchange looking at soda makers. >> this is very having story, lori and melissa. we're looking at dr. pepper and coca-cola, two names you know well. turns out on vending machines when you get your sodas you don't see the nutrition label. there is new program by the american beverage association, in two cities, chicago and san antonio where they will be displaying the labels because you know how much sugar you will get during a time we talk about obesity
the regulatory environment has got much tougher. the regulators are much more aggressive than they have been in the past. and i think, that makes the whole environment difficult. obviously if the election comes out one way or another, potentially, that could change some of that landscape. lori: okay. i'm so sorry. howard, we have to leave it there for time. howard is the president and ceo of vision taking over the accounts of perigrine financial. thanks for coming in. great to see you. >>...
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at the end of the day it's all about the environment. wait. no it's not. melissa: all right. so, when you are out shopping do you look for green products? you want to pay more? billing green is big business, but the federal trade commission is cracking down on how companies market their goods. consumers like you and i don't get duped. the problem is that the green knight seems pretty vague and might end up hurting the business bottom-line. joining me now, expert maurice, president of reiss and greece. thank you for coming on the show to me it kind of makes sense. anybody can say their product is green if it is trendy. it's like organic. you put it on anything and people want to buy it. >> well, yes. but that is assuming consumers are really stupid. they just buy everything. and you know what, consumers are skeptical. and like you said, they are actually less willing to buy things that are green and not willing to spend more money in a lot of cases. the biggest issue is green is on everything. makes it less powerful, and they are extremely skeptical. wind we need all this new
at the end of the day it's all about the environment. wait. no it's not. melissa: all right. so, when you are out shopping do you look for green products? you want to pay more? billing green is big business, but the federal trade commission is cracking down on how companies market their goods. consumers like you and i don't get duped. the problem is that the green knight seems pretty vague and might end up hurting the business bottom-line. joining me now, expert maurice, president of reiss and...
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she has secrets to finding a business environment. and where the job recovery seems to be headed next. keep it here on fox >> market is up four now. tracy: you're from states where you put premium in you're not far off. connecticut close to $5 for premium. kind of everywhere. lori: thought worse would hit labor day. melissa: they have shortages. shutting pumps. have a special boutique blend. guys have a great show. ashley: thank you. tracy: i'm tracy byrnes. ashley: i'm ashley webster. two hours to go before the closing bell. stocks well off their best levels of the day. dow off 43 points and headed for a winning week. tracy: because the market cautiously reacting to this head-scratching jobs report. unemployment rate dropped and more americans said they're working but most settled for part-time jobs. we'll look ahead to what will move the market next week. ashley: plus an innovative new program in cleveland is giving budding entrepreneurs the power to make their dreams become reality. liz claman with two of those entrepreneurs straig
she has secrets to finding a business environment. and where the job recovery seems to be headed next. keep it here on fox >> market is up four now. tracy: you're from states where you put premium in you're not far off. connecticut close to $5 for premium. kind of everywhere. lori: thought worse would hit labor day. melissa: they have shortages. shutting pumps. have a special boutique blend. guys have a great show. ashley: thank you. tracy: i'm tracy byrnes. ashley: i'm ashley webster....
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and the environment you try to change so each will make their case. when you can do better even barack obama says we do better and hope we can and met romney says we can do better but in the end americans want to see who will guide them. connell: there have been a bunch of articles that these debates don't always change things and mitt romney has to hope that the polls are not what they are. neil: we discussed this last week. a call among all of the -- polling groups gathering in a room -- we try to stick it to mitt romney. there might be a statistical quirk that favors democrats because of the sampling in 2008. it is outside the margin of error. why i they so close? i know that stuff like you do. in these swing states, ken-4 and from 6 to 3. don't hold me to that the states are swinging differently. they are tightening up which is the nature of the beast. everyone talks about the undecided voters. i think it is about winning over those who made up their minds. a lot of nixon's supporters in 1960 were so impressed with this young jack kennedy that the
and the environment you try to change so each will make their case. when you can do better even barack obama says we do better and hope we can and met romney says we can do better but in the end americans want to see who will guide them. connell: there have been a bunch of articles that these debates don't always change things and mitt romney has to hope that the polls are not what they are. neil: we discussed this last week. a call among all of the -- polling groups gathering in a room -- we...
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because it is difficult enough to find a job plus in this job environment where unemployment i over 8%, everyone knows it is tough to find a job. you often need more than 60 days. it is not a compassionate thing todo to withhold the notice. >> it is outrage just. diana, thanks for coming on. we appreciate your time. >> great to be with you. melissa: a blast from the past. drivers in one state pay $1.84 a gallon at pump. how long will it take me to get there to fill up. that is coming up. you can never have too much money. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you make 70,000 trades a second... ♪ reach one customer at a time? ♪ or help doctors turn billions of bytes of shared information... ♪ into a fifth anniversary of remission? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. >> it is time for a little bit of fun with spare change. today we are joined by monica crowley and adam shapiro. okay, first up, a gas nation in michigan will back its prices to remind people of the good old days before president obama. the first 150 drivers were
because it is difficult enough to find a job plus in this job environment where unemployment i over 8%, everyone knows it is tough to find a job. you often need more than 60 days. it is not a compassionate thing todo to withhold the notice. >> it is outrage just. diana, thanks for coming on. we appreciate your time. >> great to be with you. melissa: a blast from the past. drivers in one state pay $1.84 a gallon at pump. how long will it take me to get there to fill up. that is...
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because it is difficult enough to find a job plus in this job environment where unemployment is over 8%, everyone knows it is tough to find a job. you often need more than 60 days. it is not a compassionate thing to do to withhold the notice. >> it is outrage just. diana, thanks for coming on. we appreciate your time. >> great to be with you. melissa: a blast from the past. drivers in one state pay $1.84 a gallon at pump. how long will it take me to get there to fill up. that is coming up. you can never have too much money. ♪ those little things still get you. for you, life's about her. but your erectile dysfunction - that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for ily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medications, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sexual activity. do not take cialis if you take nitrates
because it is difficult enough to find a job plus in this job environment where unemployment is over 8%, everyone knows it is tough to find a job. you often need more than 60 days. it is not a compassionate thing to do to withhold the notice. >> it is outrage just. diana, thanks for coming on. we appreciate your time. >> great to be with you. melissa: a blast from the past. drivers in one state pay $1.84 a gallon at pump. how long will it take me to get there to fill up. that is...
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the overhang of the regulatory environment. ashley: the presidential election and fiscal clarendon and on. john haler, thank you for sharing your thoughts. really appreciate it. closing bell ringing in just under 15 minutes. coming up, jim tierney's number one moneymaker won't leave you hungry because i am starting. coming up next. . coming up next. look, if you have copd like me, you know it can be hard to breathe, and how that feels. copd includes chronic bronchitis and emphysema. spiriva helps control my copd symptoms by keeping my airways open for 24 hours. plus, it reduces copd flare-ups. spiriva is the only once-dai inhaled copd maintenance treatment that does both. spiriva handihaler tiotropium bromide inhalation powder does not replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms. tell your doctor if you have kidney problems, glaucoma, trouble urinating, or an enlarged prostate. these may worsen with spiriva. discuss all medicines you take, even eye drops. stop taking spiriva and seek immediate medical help if your breathin
the overhang of the regulatory environment. ashley: the presidential election and fiscal clarendon and on. john haler, thank you for sharing your thoughts. really appreciate it. closing bell ringing in just under 15 minutes. coming up, jim tierney's number one moneymaker won't leave you hungry because i am starting. coming up next. . coming up next. look, if you have copd like me, you know it can be hard to breathe, and how that feels. copd includes chronic bronchitis and emphysema. spiriva...
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>> it is true this extended low-interest rate environment is not favorable to bank earnings. liz: ben bernanke ordeal with it? >> i can also understand his position that stimulus hit the economy. it is good for bar worse to have low interest rates and now we have lower rates from short to long it is easier to borrow or give people reasons to borrow so last time we checked we made money when people borrow loans. it is good for us but it does shrink the spread on our loans. that is why you have to be cost-effective, acquiring good clients and looking at how to generate more business. liz: they expects fourth quarter loan growth? >> as we have talked about it we continue to see among our commercial clients that they continue to borrow and acquiring competitors and investing in business and doing things commensurate with an industry that returned to profitability. they are not hiring which is part of why we talk with ben bernanke about q e 3 and the things we are doing to stimulate the economy but we see our clients continuing to borrow and continuing to acquire new clients. liz:
>> it is true this extended low-interest rate environment is not favorable to bank earnings. liz: ben bernanke ordeal with it? >> i can also understand his position that stimulus hit the economy. it is good for bar worse to have low interest rates and now we have lower rates from short to long it is easier to borrow or give people reasons to borrow so last time we checked we made money when people borrow loans. it is good for us but it does shrink the spread on our loans. that is...
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>> in this environment we think you go with what we refer to as our barbell strategy in equities. high growth sectors like technology, financials, home builders on one side, and high yield as tony talked about on the other end, high-yield bonds, emerging market bonds, preferred. that combination, that diversified portfolio has given, you know, a nice diversified approach with steady returns in this year and solid returns, and we think that continues to be the way to go through year end. david: all right. but, david, even you, the bull in this scenario, you see a pause right now. perhaps just a momentary pause, but until we get rid of this fiscal cliff problem, etc., and you do think that we're going to deal with it, you think eventually the politicians are going to solve this problem, why don't we just take our gains right now, hold off, maybe hold these gains just for a month or so until that fiscal cliff and other problems are resolved? >> you could. if someone wants to try to time that pullback. we're down 2% on the s&p, 3% on the fashion damage. maybe that goes a little bit fu
>> in this environment we think you go with what we refer to as our barbell strategy in equities. high growth sectors like technology, financials, home builders on one side, and high yield as tony talked about on the other end, high-yield bonds, emerging market bonds, preferred. that combination, that diversified portfolio has given, you know, a nice diversified approach with steady returns in this year and solid returns, and we think that continues to be the way to go through year end....
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i want your picks in the environment coming up after the break. the closing bell rings in 13 and a half minutes, and october will be the best month of the year for equities. after the break, he'll be back. three names you got to have in the portfolio if you don't already. we'll be right back. ♪ ashley: fox business market check heading into the latest minutes hire before the close. the dow tough after dropping from the triple digit highs seen most of the day. the dow up 70 points, and nasdaq lower, and s&p essentially up a quarter of percent. up a quarter of a percent. all right. back with dan, pallisades co-chief investment officer, and his picks are an optimistic october, saying it's the best month. look at the picks. we start with franco, nevada. >> it's a direct gold play. you get a dividend from it. it's not a miner where you have to worry about cost of extraction and other issues. they own leases to gold mines. ashley: up sixty bucks. you like this price? >> gold is volatile. it's a direct peg to the commodity, but given all of the stimulu
i want your picks in the environment coming up after the break. the closing bell rings in 13 and a half minutes, and october will be the best month of the year for equities. after the break, he'll be back. three names you got to have in the portfolio if you don't already. we'll be right back. ♪ ashley: fox business market check heading into the latest minutes hire before the close. the dow tough after dropping from the triple digit highs seen most of the day. the dow up 70 points, and nasdaq...
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now buying from a more global environment offers many benefits and increases competition and thus reduce cot cost. it allows for the introduction of new technologies ab cob accepts and supports coalition war fights efforts or makings them less difficult to execute. we can benefit from the lessons learned in efficiency gains from other nations who had militaries that face difficult financial services and forced to drive home the own, quote, better buying power initiative. globalization is frankly not an option. it's a reality. but while buying from a more global environment officers many benefit to the department we must be aware of the significant risks risks. these include but are not limited to the main reason we're here today. the threat of counsel fit or interior parts entering the supply chain, the potential for undue reliance on actually con configuration may not be understood. or the risk of leaked intellectual property to foreign businesses and governments. when it comes to articulating the failure of policy on the subject, particularly as a relate its to cyberspace. one look no
now buying from a more global environment offers many benefits and increases competition and thus reduce cot cost. it allows for the introduction of new technologies ab cob accepts and supports coalition war fights efforts or makings them less difficult to execute. we can benefit from the lessons learned in efficiency gains from other nations who had militaries that face difficult financial services and forced to drive home the own, quote, better buying power initiative. globalization is...
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technologies allow natural gas producers to supply affordable, cleaner energy, while protecting our environment. across america, these technologies protect air - by monitoring air quality and reducing emissions... ...protect water - through conservation and self-contained recycling systems... ... and protect land - by reducing our footprint and respecting wildlife. america's natural gas... domestic, abundant, clean energy to power our lives... that's smarter power today. liz: welcome back, it's a law that be topple pawn shops and make, bay crumble, u.s. supreme court taking up a case that could end your right to resell youren ten own stuff, if the jus up hold an appellate court ruling you would need permission to sell any product you own that was made outtide of the u.s., that including cars, dvds, and even iphones, hard-core pawn star is watching. >> all of my be would be affected, we're a pawn shop, we deal in used merchandise 90% of the time, i don't know how we could get over a hump like that. i would have to lay off employees. liz: here the deal, if you are reselling, not just iphones but
technologies allow natural gas producers to supply affordable, cleaner energy, while protecting our environment. across america, these technologies protect air - by monitoring air quality and reducing emissions... ...protect water - through conservation and self-contained recycling systems... ... and protect land - by reducing our footprint and respecting wildlife. america's natural gas... domestic, abundant, clean energy to power our lives... that's smarter power today. liz: welcome back, it's...
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much easier environment. dave: you are not beginning new project particularly because of regulations. >> no plans to open up here because of regulations. don't understand what is going on. dave: like what? >> number one is obamacare. we don't understand it and when we ask consultants it costs money and get different answers from different people because no one understands what is going on. because of that i am not going to hire 50 employees because that is $100,000 penalty. dave: if you have less than 50 employees you don't do as much. they don't want to hurt small business but that prevents people from hiring more than 50 people. >> they come up with numbers and think 50 means you are a big business and can withstand any new initiatives they have but it is not based on the number of employees but your bottom line. your profit. >> 50% of small-business owners would not start a business today if they had no what they're getting into with the new regulations. what about you? >> risk purses reward. right now the
much easier environment. dave: you are not beginning new project particularly because of regulations. >> no plans to open up here because of regulations. don't understand what is going on. dave: like what? >> number one is obamacare. we don't understand it and when we ask consultants it costs money and get different answers from different people because no one understands what is going on. because of that i am not going to hire 50 employees because that is $100,000 penalty. dave: if...
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technologies, rigorous practices help ensure our operations are safe and clean for our communities and the environment. we're america's natural gas. why they have a raise your rate cd. tonight our guest, thomas sargent. nobel laureate in economics, and one of the most cited economists in the world. professor sargent, can you tell me what cd rates will be in two years? no. if he can't, no one can. that's why ally has a raise your rate cd. ally bank. your money needs an ally. david: time for a quick speed read. first up the congressional budget office estimates a federal budget deficit at $1.1 trillion. the fourth straight year of trillion dollar deficits. it was a slight improvement from the 2011 deficit of $1.3 trillion. starbucks will add 1,000 stores in the u.s. over the next five years. the coffee giant's ceo said the expansion will add total of 20,000 jobs that. is good news. >>> california gas prices increased 36 cents in one week. the average price of regular gas across the state is $4.49 a gallon the highest in the nation. >>> dave and buster's halts plans to launch a initial p.m. ofsh. yesterd
technologies, rigorous practices help ensure our operations are safe and clean for our communities and the environment. we're america's natural gas. why they have a raise your rate cd. tonight our guest, thomas sargent. nobel laureate in economics, and one of the most cited economists in the world. professor sargent, can you tell me what cd rates will be in two years? no. if he can't, no one can. that's why ally has a raise your rate cd. ally bank. your money needs an ally. david: time for a...
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it is uncertain regulatory environment where utilities can't plan right now. lauren: you could stay competitive right now, kind of, based on price of nat-gas, you said, right. lauren: $4? >> it come up a little bit. >> it is close. we announced a strategic repositioning plan to try to get ourselves situated in what looks like much smaller united states market but stay connected to the international growing markets. david: kevin crutchfield, alpha natural resource as coal company. appreciate it. >>> watch out groupon. there is a new player in the daily deal site place. they say they have a competitive edge that makes them stand out in a very crowded field. they will tell us what that competitive edge is coming next. en we got married. i had three kids. and she became the fl time mother of three. it was soccer, and ballet, and cheerleading, and baseball. those years were crazy. so, as we go into this next phase, you know, a big part of it for us is that there isn't anything on the schedule. lauren: let's go shopping. the daily deals market has a new player who s
it is uncertain regulatory environment where utilities can't plan right now. lauren: you could stay competitive right now, kind of, based on price of nat-gas, you said, right. lauren: $4? >> it come up a little bit. >> it is close. we announced a strategic repositioning plan to try to get ourselves situated in what looks like much smaller united states market but stay connected to the international growing markets. david: kevin crutchfield, alpha natural resource as coal company....
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the retailer, well, they are talking about an extremely challenging environment. we have seen the company today with stocks plunging. down 22% right now. they are lowering their outlook. this is on already a down week outlook. this is not a good day cure for express. then we take a look at john bob. it is a top turnaround stock. it is jumping. talking about a low debt to capital ratio. an experienced executive officer. you can see the stock is up over 60% right now. back to you. melissa: new york attorney general eric schneiderman on the lawsuit against jb morgan. alleging bear stearns misled investors. we will be right back. ♪ gecko (clearing throat) thank you, mr. speaker, uh, members of congress. in celebration of over 75 years of our government employees insurance company, or geico...as most of you know it. ...i propose savings for everyone! i'm talking hundreds here... and furthermore.. newcaster: breaking news. the gecko is demanding free pudding. and political parties that are actual parties! with cake! and presents! ah, that was good. too bad nobody coul
the retailer, well, they are talking about an extremely challenging environment. we have seen the company today with stocks plunging. down 22% right now. they are lowering their outlook. this is on already a down week outlook. this is not a good day cure for express. then we take a look at john bob. it is a top turnaround stock. it is jumping. talking about a low debt to capital ratio. an experienced executive officer. you can see the stock is up over 60% right now. back to you. melissa: new...
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technologies allow natural gas producers to supply affordable, cleaner energy, while protecting our environment. across america, these technologies protect air - by monitoring air quality and reducing emissions... ...protect water - through conservation and self-contained recycling systems... ... and protect land - by reducing our footprint and respecting wildlife. america's natural gas... domestic, abundant, clean energy to power our lives... that's smarter power today. domestic, abundant, clean energy to power our lives... take the steps to reach yours, everyowith usgoals. with real advice, for real goals. the us bank wealth management advisor can help you. every step of the way. from big steps, to little steps. since 1863 we've helped guide our clients, so they can take the steps to help grow, preserve, and pass along their wealth. so their footsteps can help the next generion find their own path. all of us serving you. us bank liz: well, at one point the dow was down 58 points, at the moment here we are down 22, trying to come back here on very thin volume on this day where the bond market
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he does not feel the competitive environment -- it is down 4% but also down 6% year to date. tough time when david einhorn piles itown by it is coming back. david asman down 36 points. dave: david einhorn was shorting one stock but also long enough. when david einhorn speaks people listen. cheryl: when nicole petallides speaks we listen. the new york stock exchange giving up early-morning games. nicole: at talk to some traders talking about the fact we have been in a narrow range and the choppy market and that is the day today coming close to the unchanged line. dave: apple is in the green. earlier it was in the red and had the $650 mark and was $700. people saw 650 and it won't be this low for long. nicole: people see that as a buying point. people like to bion that and go into that category and they go into that category. cheryl: chipotle diving today but made some bearish comments on the other side and as i mentioned general motors and warren buffett got in a little while ago. nicole: you don't fight einhorn. going against that particular day. the competition is up and gen
he does not feel the competitive environment -- it is down 4% but also down 6% year to date. tough time when david einhorn piles itown by it is coming back. david asman down 36 points. dave: david einhorn was shorting one stock but also long enough. when david einhorn speaks people listen. cheryl: when nicole petallides speaks we listen. the new york stock exchange giving up early-morning games. nicole: at talk to some traders talking about the fact we have been in a narrow range and the choppy...
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you heard meg whitman yesterday talking about the challenging environment and the year ahead is fix and build. the acceleration 2015 and we see selling down 12 1/2% this week alone. stuart: this is important because hewlett-packard is one of the great names of technology, printers, computers, a range of products, they're one of the greats of american technology and now down to a nine-year low. that's not a happy company. meg whitman runs it and has her work cut out for her. >> she's trying to turn around the company and talking about fix and build and they will have layoffs. everybody was hoping for a lot more, a lot faster and when you see the stock is down just 13% this week, obviously, disconcerting. stuart: can you get the stock price up by chopping away at the work force? very interesting question. nicole, thank you very much indeed. the dow industrials opened 40 points higher the first 90 seconds of business, there you go. gas prices, we bring you this news up only slightly. 3.78 for regular and diesel 4.08. the big story within the gas price arena. california, due to refinery pro
you heard meg whitman yesterday talking about the challenging environment and the year ahead is fix and build. the acceleration 2015 and we see selling down 12 1/2% this week alone. stuart: this is important because hewlett-packard is one of the great names of technology, printers, computers, a range of products, they're one of the greats of american technology and now down to a nine-year low. that's not a happy company. meg whitman runs it and has her work cut out for her. >> she's...
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the russians before us a very difficult place and continues to be a very challenging environment. speak of the reason there is no defeat of al qaeda and in afghanistan is because the administration even the last two years of the previous administration not interested in working with civil society to work with the younger generati generation, and unfortunately we are going to withdraw and the taliban will come back and sees as much as they can. ashley: the arab spring, what challenges does it pose with regards to security in the region? >> lebanon is clearly a lost cause, and the israelis are watching. iraq is going the wrong direction, the president has no solution to what is going on with iran contaminating the entire region. we have a policy that is absolutely bankrupt, it is going to lead to far broader problems across that part of the world and also the underbelly of europe. he think we have had it bad, this rate it will get much worse. ashley: all right, thank you so much. they will have much more on the administration's response to libya and afghanistan later coming up with
the russians before us a very difficult place and continues to be a very challenging environment. speak of the reason there is no defeat of al qaeda and in afghanistan is because the administration even the last two years of the previous administration not interested in working with civil society to work with the younger generati generation, and unfortunately we are going to withdraw and the taliban will come back and sees as much as they can. ashley: the arab spring, what challenges does it...
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talking about a very challenging environment. giving an outlook that was somewhat of a cautious one. we are think that down 8.6%. that is a huge move. almost at a ten year low. i also want to take a look and flipped the arrow around. that is for netflix. it has been a top performer for the s&p 500. number one spot right now. citigroup reiterated their by rating on netflix. in a note to clients. it is up almost 8%. back to you. melissa: thank you so much. lori: western union. transfer, first commercialmoney satellites and even the first singing telegram. what is a 160-year-old company doing to stay current in this economy? we have the ceo of western union with us now. welcome to you, sir. >> thank you. lori: one thing you are doing is participating in this event to incorporate responsibility. education is the main reason people spend money around the world. >> about 21 transactions a second. we moved about $150 billion yearly. the main reason for the people moving money from one country to another country is education, supporting
talking about a very challenging environment. giving an outlook that was somewhat of a cautious one. we are think that down 8.6%. that is a huge move. almost at a ten year low. i also want to take a look and flipped the arrow around. that is for netflix. it has been a top performer for the s&p 500. number one spot right now. citigroup reiterated their by rating on netflix. in a note to clients. it is up almost 8%. back to you. melissa: thank you so much. lori: western union. transfer, first...
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out of the gates really forcefully and what does that do in the persona of biden as far as a debate environment? i think this format which is the same format that you saw in the first debate will enable some back and forth and some fireworks. so that's why this debate this week is very interesting. but the town hall debate is next for the presidents -- debate for the presidential debate format in new york. and then you have the foreign policy debate. so it is really romney's debate performance and campaigning this all these battleground states. dagen: what about on the president's side? is it also the most critical thing for him, his debate performance, or are they focused on something completely different? >> well, i think they are focused on the spending and the get out the vote effort. they have an infrastructure that they've spent a lot of money on, and you see he's still out campaigning trying to raise money because there is a machine that costs a lot of money to run, a lot of offices around the country to try to get out those voters on election day. you know, the economy while some -- you
out of the gates really forcefully and what does that do in the persona of biden as far as a debate environment? i think this format which is the same format that you saw in the first debate will enable some back and forth and some fireworks. so that's why this debate this week is very interesting. but the town hall debate is next for the presidents -- debate for the presidential debate format in new york. and then you have the foreign policy debate. so it is really romney's debate performance...
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i think the environment is different. you cannot take all that evidence and a flight it. >> we will have the fed chairman remarks live on fox business at 12:30 p.m. there will be plenty of questions on inflation, economic conditions, when the fed starts pulling back on monetary policy, still many questions regarding qe3. connell: rich, thank you very much. all that uncertainty that surrounds our economy could be what leads us back into recession. brian was perry joins us now. he has been optimistic about the economy. >> i did not disagree with one word he just said to dagen and fewer viewers. he is absolutely right. the government is too big. we have all of these taxes to worry about if we do not cut spending. it has become the biggest financial institution in the world and that is why we are more worried today about uncertainty and what has happened is the risk reward ratio has changed for business. there is more risk and potentially a lot less rewards. businesses are holding back and that increases the odds of recession
i think the environment is different. you cannot take all that evidence and a flight it. >> we will have the fed chairman remarks live on fox business at 12:30 p.m. there will be plenty of questions on inflation, economic conditions, when the fed starts pulling back on monetary policy, still many questions regarding qe3. connell: rich, thank you very much. all that uncertainty that surrounds our economy could be what leads us back into recession. brian was perry joins us now. he has been...
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and in that sense would probably set the stage for better growth and friendly, potentially regulatory environment on top of no tax increases, to me, that spells a rest me for 3 to 4% scenario that you talked about. stuart: michelle gerard, don't be such a stranger, i don't get into politics that much with you. thank you, michelle. >> all right, stuart. stuart: and what else we've got for you this tuesday morning, wind energy does not work on a large scale. it's one of the most favored industries in america. a top crrtic of energy subs subsidies, explains that. >> and doctors, many voted for president obama last time and why are they switching their votes, 15% ever are going to switch. voters in michigan will have the chance to give public workers new powers and put it into the state constitution. about that pass? big deal there. and we just got ford motor company sales, they were up 4% that's year over year, 4% gain for the ford motor company and the stock is virtually unchanged. down just 5 cents. we want to hear from you about everything we talk about. varney@foxbusiness.com, is how you reach u
and in that sense would probably set the stage for better growth and friendly, potentially regulatory environment on top of no tax increases, to me, that spells a rest me for 3 to 4% scenario that you talked about. stuart: michelle gerard, don't be such a stranger, i don't get into politics that much with you. thank you, michelle. >> all right, stuart. stuart: and what else we've got for you this tuesday morning, wind energy does not work on a large scale. it's one of the most favored...
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. >> and mcnaughton claims she is just helping her dorm mates get ready for the prison environment. which is where some will be headed if their cases end in conviction. >> these girls aren't gay and they're going to have to be when they go to prison. so -- >> according to kelley. >> they will be. trust me. when these girls go, they'll come out with girlfriends, so i taught them like how to hop on and do weird things. with our stripes on and stuff like that. yeah. we had lesbian sex 101. >> she made us all try it out so that we could feel the feeling. >> yeah. and it was good. >> mcnaughton has recently set her sights on a new arrival. >> this is my new blonde, jessica. fake boobs. really big fake boobs. nice ones. but she's kicking heroin. kind of like the other blonde. >> jessica arrived two days ago, still high on heroin and barely able to stomach the food. and though mcnaughton's gravitational pull in the dorm is strong, styx said she won't be sucked in. >> like kelley is, i guess, a pimp. she has everybody doing everything for her, which i'm not going to do. i don't like girls a
. >> and mcnaughton claims she is just helping her dorm mates get ready for the prison environment. which is where some will be headed if their cases end in conviction. >> these girls aren't gay and they're going to have to be when they go to prison. so -- >> according to kelley. >> they will be. trust me. when these girls go, they'll come out with girlfriends, so i taught them like how to hop on and do weird things. with our stripes on and stuff like that. yeah. we had...
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for two parties to come together and produce an environment where business can proper -- tracy: energy security is something you are talking about. the obama administration has done everything they can to destroy all the coal industry. where do you stand on that? >> it is important to realize that coal is an instrumental part of what the country is about and energy policy needs to be balanced that includes coal and natural gas and everything else. the president talks about an energy plan that is an all of the above strategy in> cuding clean coal but the administration and the agencies of the government need to follow suit. we need and all of the above balanced approach that takes into account the risk and also takes advantage of the resources we have in this country. >> i hope you and your smart cronies down there come up with something really good. thanks for getting to us today. you had a tough time traveling. >> thank you. dennis: hp shares down 9% said their lowest level since 2003. we head to the nyse for why. tracy: as we take down to the fiscal cliff we have a guest that says th
for two parties to come together and produce an environment where business can proper -- tracy: energy security is something you are talking about. the obama administration has done everything they can to destroy all the coal industry. where do you stand on that? >> it is important to realize that coal is an instrumental part of what the country is about and energy policy needs to be balanced that includes coal and natural gas and everything else. the president talks about an energy plan...
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a computer in a club environment. >> computer on a treadmill taking it to another level. a big growth area for brunswick which was 50% return on investment over the last year. not bad. >> the only clement is popping for this company. i can't run to the corner on a treadmill. >> they do this, the bikes as well. you will be able to bite the tour de france course and watch this is a program on bikes as well. takes you to these courses and you move along the course with you are writing more running. that was awesome. thank you. i can't run. from a bite to walk out the new york times is seein of action lately and could it be the labor friendly newspaper may not be so friendly with unions after all? dennis kneale covering the story. i was never in a union. >> let's not forget that. >> union are doing very well but not so well for newspapers. 700 employees walked off the job. they are protesting the hard-line. the walkout was more around the block. it is awkward for management that one of the most pro union papers in the country. labor, so long as it declines in the private sect
a computer in a club environment. >> computer on a treadmill taking it to another level. a big growth area for brunswick which was 50% return on investment over the last year. not bad. >> the only clement is popping for this company. i can't run to the corner on a treadmill. >> they do this, the bikes as well. you will be able to bite the tour de france course and watch this is a program on bikes as well. takes you to these courses and you move along the course with you are...
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and you'll see lyric can also give you exceptionally clear, natural sound in quiet and noisy environments because of how it works with your ear's own anatomy. (testimonial section) (testimonial section) (testimonial section) did you know, 94% of people who use lyric would recommend lyric to a friend or loved one. can your hearing aid do all this? lyric can. to learn more about lyric's advanced technology, call or visit trylyric.com for a risk--free 30--day trial offer. you'll also get a free informational dvd and brochure. why wait? hear today what a little lyric cacan do for you. lyric from phonak. life is on. >> wednesday night. the debate. are thursday's headlines written? obama wins, romney loses, can we assume that will be the story line? yes, we can in my personal opinion. democratic strategist says you cannot trust the mainstream media, the bias, polling, very complicated some of it is error, some of it miscalculation and some is deliberate in my opinion. to pump up the numbers using the 2008 base to give a momentum to the obama campaign, that's pat caddell. and news report editor
and you'll see lyric can also give you exceptionally clear, natural sound in quiet and noisy environments because of how it works with your ear's own anatomy. (testimonial section) (testimonial section) (testimonial section) did you know, 94% of people who use lyric would recommend lyric to a friend or loved one. can your hearing aid do all this? lyric can. to learn more about lyric's advanced technology, call or visit trylyric.com for a risk--free 30--day trial offer. you'll also get a free...
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you talk about the helmet and all things are going to be able it to sforespond to the environment. >> reporter: that's a big question, too. they have designed his suit and the balloon and the capsule to withstand all this. we're going to show you where the balloon is going to be launched. our photo journalist mike love and i pivot over to the field over here. this is where the balloon will be launched. the balloon is 55 stories high to pull him up to the edge of space. the plan is once he steps off and starting the free fall, the balloon and capsule will fall back to earth on their own and retreat. the plan is to preserve the two for history, and hopefully that will happen and all can be preserved. it's going to be very exciting. it will take about 20 minutes total, so we'll see. >> you are poised to witness it all. thanks so much, brian todd, keep us posted. this might now happen on tuesday pending weather. >>> some military wives knew this would get your attention. going topless, but there's a series cause behind what they're doing. ♪ [ male announcer ] its lightweight constructio
you talk about the helmet and all things are going to be able it to sforespond to the environment. >> reporter: that's a big question, too. they have designed his suit and the balloon and the capsule to withstand all this. we're going to show you where the balloon is going to be launched. our photo journalist mike love and i pivot over to the field over here. this is where the balloon will be launched. the balloon is 55 stories high to pull him up to the edge of space. the plan is once he...
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the idea to talk with students about the importance of physical activity, raise their concern for the environment and focus on the need for safer routes for walking. >> it represents what can happen in a split second. two teenagers hit not far froo here. >> the fire chief put his walking shoes on along with councilmembers and local officials joining students, staff and parents. >> i think the kids absolutely love it. if it were up to the kids, they would do this every day. >> reporter: to end the morning, a performance for us, a song about pedestrian safety as they geared up for this year's walk to school day. this isn't the end of it. many of these kids say they plan to walk home as well at the end of the day. in silver spring, maryland, melissa mollet. >> folks driving this afternoon should keep an eye out for the kids walking. >> yes, they should. danella sealock has the latest on the traffic. >> good morning. it was a tough commute. now, things are looking a lot better. a lot of fender benders because of fog earlier. the road looks clear. i want to show you the american legion bridge. road wo
the idea to talk with students about the importance of physical activity, raise their concern for the environment and focus on the need for safer routes for walking. >> it represents what can happen in a split second. two teenagers hit not far froo here. >> the fire chief put his walking shoes on along with councilmembers and local officials joining students, staff and parents. >> i think the kids absolutely love it. if it were up to the kids, they would do this every day....
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today washington and the environment contain all the richest counties in america. does that make sense that the people are supposed to be serving us are in fact growing o'obesity with power and privilege. i think that a symbol of daunt. >> how did you get your start studying the topics? >> i began when i was young man. i began writing about sex of all things. i wrote a book called "sexual suicide." it's men and marriage. and i essentially showed that civilization depend on family life. that it's the ties of family that ultimately connect men in particular to the fure. and thus, i said that man's connection to the future passes through the woman of a woman. and men and marriage. and i believe that the break down of family way back in the early 1970s would lead to a welfare state for the women and children a police state for the boys. because female-headed families are inept at raising boys. and today we have the welfare state that is some 70 programs taking care of women and children, and we have a police state for the boys for only a third of young black men are in
today washington and the environment contain all the richest counties in america. does that make sense that the people are supposed to be serving us are in fact growing o'obesity with power and privilege. i think that a symbol of daunt. >> how did you get your start studying the topics? >> i began when i was young man. i began writing about sex of all things. i wrote a book called "sexual suicide." it's men and marriage. and i essentially showed that civilization depend on...
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this renaissance design for an ideal city uses classical architecture to create a perfect environment based upon reason and order. and in perhaps the most famous image of man by a renaissance artist, leonardo da vinci is illustrating the roman author vitruvius. man, in his ideal proportions, is the measure of all things. out of their preoccupation with classical harmony and proportion, renaissance artists created these new images of man and woman. [bells ringing] inside the palazzo vecchio, the 5,000 or so florentines who had the right to vote would meet, summoned by the bell in times of crisis. they were the members of the influential guilds and represented craftsmen and the most economically important activities... sculptors and stoneworkers... textiles... metalworkers... masons and builders... lawyers and solicitors. the engine driving the art of florence at the beginning of the 15th century was competition between the guilds and competition between the artists commissioned by them. the armorers guild paid for this powerful, alert image of their patron saint, saint george, by donat
this renaissance design for an ideal city uses classical architecture to create a perfect environment based upon reason and order. and in perhaps the most famous image of man by a renaissance artist, leonardo da vinci is illustrating the roman author vitruvius. man, in his ideal proportions, is the measure of all things. out of their preoccupation with classical harmony and proportion, renaissance artists created these new images of man and woman. [bells ringing] inside the palazzo vecchio, the...
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it is an environment for issues that can be solved by cooperation between china and the united states. complete consensus. i have anticipated and others have participated in many conversations that indicate that it is possible to have such a dialogue and also that the alternative is going to lead to results in my view but the drama of world war i. >> the man in the hat. the microphone to the middle. >> i am with the national advisory council foundation and reading dr. kissinger's book on china. on the paging out -- i sense that one of the reasons might have been very close relations with you and 100% agreement on proceeding with everything that you wanted to accomplish on behalf of the total policy that china and the u.s. pulling at that time. in other words taking care of the soviet union's belligerency towards china. >> the question is -- >> a factor in these political -- >> he was accused of the special in conversations that occurred after 1973 too agreeable to the united states. based on a complete misunderstanding of what this question was as i understand it from various sources.
it is an environment for issues that can be solved by cooperation between china and the united states. complete consensus. i have anticipated and others have participated in many conversations that indicate that it is possible to have such a dialogue and also that the alternative is going to lead to results in my view but the drama of world war i. >> the man in the hat. the microphone to the middle. >> i am with the national advisory council foundation and reading dr. kissinger's...
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a really difficult environment, the past ten years. now all of a sudden, you see plans maintain their traditional allocation. now underfunded. the question comes back to, okay, if you ever are funded -- fully funded again what would you do in the future, having lived this in the past? and many are look tact and saying, you know what actually, our corporate balance sheets are strong enough, we can take that risk on right now of redee risking the plan full and paying out cash in order to use this liability-driven investing to in essence, create certainty about their statements they haven't had in the past. cfos can take one of the things off their list they worry about at night that keeps them up. >> derek, how do the fund managers presently feel about the volatility of the market? the loaned of the volatility as far as the s & p 500, how are they approaching investments based upon that? >> yeah, you know what, great point there, because basically what's happening is we see volatility as bag big concern. it shows up from our clients, sho
a really difficult environment, the past ten years. now all of a sudden, you see plans maintain their traditional allocation. now underfunded. the question comes back to, okay, if you ever are funded -- fully funded again what would you do in the future, having lived this in the past? and many are look tact and saying, you know what actually, our corporate balance sheets are strong enough, we can take that risk on right now of redee risking the plan full and paying out cash in order to use this...
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we obviously in this environment focus on the things we can control. we got one thing there, two major issues were overshadowing it a little bit. a civil litigation case we moved out of the way and mediation, which has been pending there since 1989. that's gone. revenues, $5.8 billion. performance is basically paying off. we're hitting profitability highs. in the upstream business, you actually see when you open the hood that there's strong productivity underneath it and that we're adjusting the structure. that pretty much gives an idea of what's happening in the quarter here. >> a couple points, klaus. you mentioned that settlement with alba. is there any reason to believe there's more to come on this whether or not other lawsuits sort of carry on in the next quarter and the next quarter, or can you categorically say this issue is behind? >> well, the civil settlement is behind us. that's one thing. i mean, the thing that's still open there is basically the settlement with the doj and sec. we will continue negotiations on that. so that's important. th
we obviously in this environment focus on the things we can control. we got one thing there, two major issues were overshadowing it a little bit. a civil litigation case we moved out of the way and mediation, which has been pending there since 1989. that's gone. revenues, $5.8 billion. performance is basically paying off. we're hitting profitability highs. in the upstream business, you actually see when you open the hood that there's strong productivity underneath it and that we're adjusting...
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if the national environment is destroyed, then it is really bad, and not just for our own investment, but for the area in general. at the beginning, i thought i would get involved in the fight against it, that i would not go along with it, but now, i am having my doubts. i wonder whether things are not better as they stand and if i would be better off moving away. >> of course, that is not with this conservationist wants, but more and more manor houses on her map are marked in pink, indicating that they are in serious condition. >> recently, one of the manor houses had disappeared completely. there was just a heap of stones. i fear that in the next five or 10 years, and aiding houses will be beyond repair. >> it could soon be dotted with ruins, ruins with a certain melancholic charm for sure, but hardly evidence of the prosperity that east germans were promised after unification. >> that brings us to the end of this edition of "european journal" from dw studios in brussels. from all of us here, thanks very much for watching. until next nine -- until next time, bye for now! captioned b
if the national environment is destroyed, then it is really bad, and not just for our own investment, but for the area in general. at the beginning, i thought i would get involved in the fight against it, that i would not go along with it, but now, i am having my doubts. i wonder whether things are not better as they stand and if i would be better off moving away. >> of course, that is not with this conservationist wants, but more and more manor houses on her map are marked in pink,...
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do live it's a question more and more people are aware of today climate change and the safety of our environment as a whole are being discussed around the world and perhaps it's those small steps that might be a start to people living in harmony with nature. ernie's are not the same tank schmoo trees have recruited a renewed syria toxic secret despite homes from damascus to respect leap zone for intake to argue that i am fine i don't think all the time stating every time a should do shouting from syria which goes on and on line is not considering whether to exercise calls for them in the trial for a shot in the area. and also they have to be are asked charged eleven people farting at secret agents from moscow allegedly. sending millions worth of restricted technology to the passion of. the few pounds on to plans that increase turns out a bunch of them but midst of crisis despite austerity his member states calling for brussels to control its own right. now russian football teams aren't having much luck in the champions league at the moment with the latest setback and the rest of the sport. hello
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would in this kind of israeli boundaries rather than compete for the same rights within the arab nation environment what role israel's palestinian citizens play in the jewish democratic equation from the point of view of many of. the we can boil the system we can we boys of the system i mean whenever something bad happens between jews and jews the with the palestinian the israeli palestinian i mean when lieberman wants to make a complain against somebody. bashes the minority when. the party wants to progress itself it goes against the israeli arabs and there is a competition over let's limit them or who limits the limits more. so i would say that in many many cases unfortunately the israeli palestinians are that little more space for. the quality and the quality of the israeli democracy and recently most of the coming out. what does the word zionism mean for me there was a very interesting maybe even crucial movement in a concept that was actually the scaffolding. of the jewish structures it was a scaffolding newly erected by the end of the nineteenth century in order to transform or renew or rebui
would in this kind of israeli boundaries rather than compete for the same rights within the arab nation environment what role israel's palestinian citizens play in the jewish democratic equation from the point of view of many of. the we can boil the system we can we boys of the system i mean whenever something bad happens between jews and jews the with the palestinian the israeli palestinian i mean when lieberman wants to make a complain against somebody. bashes the minority when. the party...
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is that it simply is taking into account racial diversity as part of what constitutes a meritorious environment, right? we're already past a place where race is like the thumb on the scale, right? >> i guess i would put it differently. i would say it's not a rigid quota. it can operate as a plus factor, but to some people would be viewed as a thumb on the scale. the brief that was sort of moving to me in looking at the case going -- o the fisher going up to the supreme court, oral arguments are on wednesday, is a brief written by deans of harvard and yale. notice that harvard and yale are where anine of the justices graduated. when we do admissions, we do a holistic merit-based analysis. if we build a diverse class, racial diversity is one component of that excellence. don't take our word for it. go to mckenzie and mckenzie has done amazing consulting work with fortune 500. again, we can have queasiness about whether or not that's a metric, whether it's a social justice issue, engaging in mediation rather than this is good for the bottom line. going back to the 2003 case, the briefs moving to s
is that it simply is taking into account racial diversity as part of what constitutes a meritorious environment, right? we're already past a place where race is like the thumb on the scale, right? >> i guess i would put it differently. i would say it's not a rigid quota. it can operate as a plus factor, but to some people would be viewed as a thumb on the scale. the brief that was sort of moving to me in looking at the case going -- o the fisher going up to the supreme court, oral...